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That means he's pretty much the final enemy the players have to face in the Whiterun Siege if they joined the Stormcloaks. Furthermore, the man who replaces him, Vignar Gray-Mane, is less charismatic, less wise, and needlessly abrasive compared to Balgruuf. One of the main reasons for the civil war was the banning of Talos, a Skyrim native and favorite son who founded the empire and ascended to godhood. The Thalmor are opposed to the idea of a mortal becoming divine and this made a lot of Nords very, very angry.

Fighting for the Stormcloaks means fighting for the right to worship Talos and help continue this religious tradition that is central to Nord identity. You can help the Nords take back their homeland and their culture. They see the chaos and what to extend it indefinitely so that two enemies are weakened at once.

But, if the imperials win, what may look like a Thalmor victory on paper could easily be their undoing. A strengthened empire would have the means to bide their time and wait to strike the Thalmor once they are strong.

If the Stormcloaks win, then the empire is fractured even more and Skyrim is left wide open for an invasion. The first friendly face you see upon waking up, Ralof is another fan-favorite NPC and potential guide to surviving the dragon attack in Helgen.

If you decide to join up with the Stormcloak army like he suggests you have the chance to battle by his side once again. Ralof appears again when you are tasked with finding the Jagged Crown. He shows up in most Stormcloak quests after that and remains a steadfast and reliable ally in battle. When you side with the Imperials, the culmination of the Civil War questline ends when Ulfric is killed. This means Windhelm is in need of a new, more accepting Jarl and Brunwulf Free-Winter is the man for the job.

Unlike Ulfric he welcomes all races into the city and promises to clean up the Gray Quarter and allow the Argonians to live in the city. Sid was born, did some stuff, then decided to become a writer. He finds respite in the sweet embrace of mass media escapism after having risked his life too many times as a journalist covering warzones and depressed areas. Eventually, the Aldemeri Dominion gave the Empire a list of demands: disband the Blades , outlaw the worship of Talos and surrender large sections of Hammerfel to the Dominion.

These demands were accompanied by hundreds of severed heads of Blades that were investigating the Thalmor. This led to the Great War, in which the Empire attempted to defeat the Aldemeri Dominion, but to no avail.

The Empire was ultimately forced to sign the White-Gold Concordat, a peace treaty that gave the Thalmor everything it had demanded initially in exchange for an end to the bloodshed. Talos is revered across Skyrim, and the Empire's signing of the White-Gold Concordat led Ulfric to believe that the Empire was too weak to continue to rule or protect its people.

The Stormcloaks aim to achieve Skyrim's independence, eliminate all Thalmor within the land and prepare for a future, inevitable war with the Aldemeri Dominion. The Imperial Legion believes that Skyrim must abide by the laws of the Empire while it remains a province, and while most Imperials despise the Thalmor just as much as Ulfric, they believe that the White-Gold Concordat is a necessary evil to prevent further conflict.

In essence, Ulfric is not incorrect to believe that the Empire has become something of a puppet for the Thalmor. The organization does indeed hold much influence over the Empire after the Great War, and the Aldemeri Dominion is unquestionably evil -- in fact, it's the driving force behind the Civil War.

He would just send them to Ulfric. Giants in Skyrim appear to have a "don't mess with me and I dont mess with you" attitude, he would instigate a fight with the Giants just for petty vengeance, that's his Pride getting in the way of being a good leader.

Talking with the citizens of his hold, even the nicest thing that could be said of him, is said sarcastically; "That would be Skald the Elder. He's been running Dawnstar ever since he was a boy, and he never lost that brat's attitude. Turned on the Empire first chance he got.

Now we're all part of this rebellion. If appointed Jarl she ackowledges the threat of Dragon attacks, has given the guards standing order to be ready with buckets, to be ready for fire.

She even shares the same sentiments about the Empire not being what it used to be; "This rebellion in Skyrim is one problem, but solving it won't fix everything.

But that's the kind of talk an old warhorse shouldn't be making. Don't worry. I have my problems with the Empire, but I'm still a soldier first. We'll keep peace and order in Dawnstar. She prepares the City in case of Stormcloak attacks, and even settles things with the Court Wizard making sure Madena understands she isnt seen as a walking weapon, ASKING not conscripting if she would be willing to heal injured people.

Of the 2 Choices, I'd have to say Brina is clearly better. She obviously cares for her people, and the wellbeing of Dawnstar. Skald on the other hand is willing to just throw men at the Empire even if it means they all die together. Is this the attitude you want when it comes to fighting the Thalmor? Just throw men at them till one side is completely dead? His own brother Thadgeir will even warn you to take his brother's words "With a grain of salt" implying he knows how paranoid his brother sounds.

He cares more for the perks of the posistion, rather than actually running his hold. This leaves the actual running of the hold in the hands of Nenya the Steward, and Helvard the Housecarl. So at the very best, he's an absent leader but does listen to reason. Nenya does do a good job of seeing to the needs of the people, while Helvard see the guards are prepared. He is a spoiled brat, to say the least. Of the two, it's a bit of a hard call, but I will go with Siddgeir, not because I'm an imperial supporter, but because we actually see him dealing with court, even if it's just to say taxes are late.

He at least knows whats going on within the hold, where as with Dengeir, he spends most of him time drinking, and trying to root out non-existant Imperial spies, making enemies of close friends. With Either Jarl, Nenya ultimately does the most work for the Hold, and should be the Jarl, but the lesser of two evils in this case is Siddgeir.

At first meeting him, he's arguing with Brother Verulus, and like with all the Stormcloaks, when he doesnt get his way, he claims it's because the brother is an Imperial supporter. If appointed Jarl, he has a very "Jarl Skald" attitude when it comes to dealing with forsworn, Rather then delicately dealing with the situation to avoid un-needed death, Thongvor openly wnats to violently supress them, and force them into working the mines. I totally understand the hatred here for the forsworn, specifically with this Capitol's history, but Violent supression seems like it would do more harm than good in the long run, and surprise surprise, they'd be working in his family's mine making them more money.

Thus is the Stormcloak way, advocating freedom while supressing everyone who isnt a Nord. I apologize, I've gone bias again, let me reel it back in. In short, he is seen as a very violent man. While he seems to lement the decision to allow Ulfric to be arrested after the Markarth inccident, he understands it was the best call to make for Skyrim, as they couldnt afford a war with the Thalmor.

Even tho Forsworn killed his father, he isnt going around looking for Forsworn to kill or send to the mines.

This all tells me he's level headed and doesnt allow personal feels effect how he rules his Hold. Some could view this as weakness, but I see honor in how he's ruling, even with the Silver-bloods "secretly" ruling in the background. Of the two, we have one violent man, who's family bought the guards, have a forced labor camp, and are aiding in the conspiricy of the forsworn uprising.

The other is an honorable man who does what is best for Skyrim. No contest, Igmund is way better. Unlike Dengeir however, Idgrod actually seems to have visions. But this has caused a rift between the townsfolk and herself, as evidenced by the rabble out front of the Jarls home when you arrive. I do like her answer when asked who she sides with, "I stand with Morthal" So at least we know she cares for the Hold and her people, and at least with dialog between the her husband, and with her Housecarl, she appears to be a capable leader.

She is a Strong, accomplished Nord, hard worker, and used to giving orders. A natural leader. The real issues come to light when she becomes Jarl, as it becomes evident she doesnt really care about the hold, so much as she cares about her new posistion. I suppose this would make her the Stormcloak Siddgeir.

It's a bit strange someone who works so closely to Bryling, and specifically ships ore to Solitude presumably for more weapons to supply the Imperials would align themselves with Ulfric. Of these two, I'll start with Jorgen's quote when asked about Sorli; "We've gone from a Jarl lost in her own head to a Jarl that cares for nothing but herself. Lot of good that does us. She's only in it for herself. If she's the best Ulfric has to offer, maybe we might've been better off with the Imperials. Laila however is easily convinced there is no problem, or at the very least it's under control.

Even tho every other time we visit Riften someone is getting mowed down with arrows after being caught stealing. NOW to be fair, Maven does have a hand in seeing that the guild is "protected" from the Jarl. But really, theres plenty of townsfolk who openly speak out against the Thieves Guild, so I'd say half the problem is Maven, the other Half is Laila's naivete. Even if it's Ulfric stormcloak asking for your seal, you don't even hand that out to anyone. Lastly, whle she is a supporter of the Stormcloaks she admits that she doesn't have much faith in Ulfric himself.

This suggests that as an independent nation, Skyrim may have jumped from the frying pan into the fire, still forced to abide the presence of the far stronger Dominion even if the High Elves are no longer able to legally police Talos worship. The Thalmor are also seen to retain spies throughout Skyrim. This is also unaffected by a Stormcloak victory, and the fact that the Thalmor are still able to operate in the underbelly of one of Skyrim's hold capitals should be cause for concern for any player who dislikes the Dominion.

The effects of the Civil War on the main questline have sobering implications for the Stormcloaks no matter which side the player chooses. If they side with Ulfric, they'll find that he remains unable to prevent the Thalmor from operating within his borders, just as the Imperials were. If they side with the Empire, they'll find Ulfric in Sovngarde lamented the blood spilled by the war he helped start, and implying that he may have made other decisions had he been a wiser man. It's an interesting detail for Bethesda to include, and one which adds a more complicated tone to the sympathetic light the Stormcloaks are cast in during the game's introduction.

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